I actually watched the group for several months prior to ever trying anything. They had very elaborate plans, charts, spreadsheets, research, news, even claimed to attend conferences. They eventually bait you in by allowing you to make some money and even some lower level withdrawals. They will either find a way to cause your account to appear wiped out by an investment or they will freeze your funds. But please see the attached txt messages I keep receiving now, it has been over a year and I constantly get these types of messages claiming they would like to help me recover funds.